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F5B "Have A Go Events"


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Dick Whitehead

If anyone in the UK fancies having a go at flying on a proper F5B timed course we are organising a few “Have A Go Events” at Buckminster to let you do just that.

 Not competitions, so no pressure or panic, just fun days out with like-minded people and plenty of support and advice from regular F5B flyers.

No need for any special competition plane, or even a hotliner, as we can adapt the setup to suit whatever you have, whether it is a small foamy glider or a 4m+ moulded model. Just about anything is suitable for the Have A Go days.

The aim of the days are to have a trial flights based on the 150m course followed by a short glide around (e.g. 2 minutes) and land. There will be no scores recorded but you are able to have bragging rights over your clubmates if you manage more laps than them on the day.

More details, and a lot more information about the F5B class, can be found on the UK F5B website here https://www.f5b.co.uk/have-a-go.html

But if you have any questions just ask.

Dick

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Alan Flockhart

Excellent!   Please let us know John if you have any questions at all about the Have A Go.     What plane(s) do you have for running on the day?

Cheers

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John Minchell

Hi Alan

I was talking with Paul Bardoe yesterday and then trying to think of which model I could dig out and would be the most suitable.  Have a Simprop Selection or a Mini Ellipse or an electric Stu Blanchard 3m F3B Calypso.  All need re-commissioning and none have high power electric set ups, but one of them should be ok to have a bash with.  Your help is chosing the most suitable model would be appreciated.

John M

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Dick Whitehead

I would have thought any of those would be fine to have ago with. Most people start with something like the Selection or the Mini Ellipse anyway, and I would love to see the Calypso on the F5B course.

I am planning on having a go with my Pike Perfection that I am currently using to experiment with GPS Triangle - just to see how I get on with it. That is definitely not high powered either, but will certainly be different to my regular F5B models, and in the true spirit of "have a go".

Ideally something with the battery capacity to give you multiple (5 or 6 or more) climbs to something like 150m. I might struggle with that bit with the Pike Perfection, but it is at least a chance to play with it and find out.

Dick

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John Minchell

Dick, that is exactly the problem I have realised - no suitable batteries for the Calypso.

It has a Kontronic Kira 500 motor wih a 6.7:1 gearbox and will take 3 cells and an 18 to 19 inch dia x 10,11 inch pitch prop for 500 to 600 watts.

Or up to 5 cells and a 15 to 16 dia x 10 pitch and 100Amps for 2Kw+ which I think will be a bit too hot for me and the rusty thumbs on the sticks.

Where do you guys get your Lipo power train and LiFe receiver batteries from, as I need to order today/tonight to get them before Friday.

Cheers John M

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Alan Flockhart

I've gone and dug out a Surprise ....  (no idea of the number but the sticker on the tail is from 1996) Hence ancient 😆.   I've got this on 3S with a glider drive SK3 (~£30) on a 12x11 Aeronaut Cam prop with a YEP controller (~£40 from memory).   Not measured the current but it moves along reasonably. ~10seconds for a climb to do 4 legs. 

In terms of batteries I used to get them from mylipo.de - though doubt they would come through quickly now if at all.  

I have used HRB in a pattern ship.  something like these https://www.amazon.co.uk/HRB-2200mAh-Battery-Evader-Airplane/dp/B07PYS3N8T they do seem to be very good. 

Or Overlander?  https://www.overlander.co.uk/lipo-batteries/11-1v-3s.html?product_list_order=battery_capacity&product_list_dir=desc

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Alan Flockhart
5 minutes ago, Alan Flockhart said:

I have used HRB in a pattern ship.  something like these https://www.amazon.co.uk/HRB-2200mAh-Battery-Evader-Airplane/dp/B07PYS3N8T they do seem to be very good. 

In terms of the HRB's I've got a direct contact with the chap who sells them via Amazon. They usually work out a little cheaper removing the 'middle giant' :)   Let me know what size you are after and I can have a chat.

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John Minchell

Hi Alan

That was one of the questions, as I don't know what capacity I need.

Can you PM me your phone number and I can call you to discuss as it will be quicker and easier if thats ok.

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Dick Whitehead
On 20/10/2021 at 10:33, Dick Whitehead said:

Ideally something with the battery capacity to give you multiple (5 or 6 or more) climbs to something like 150m. I might struggle with that bit with the Pike Perfection, but it is at least a chance to play with it and find out

On 26/10/2021 at 14:25, John Minchell said:

Dick, that is exactly the problem I have realised - no suitable batteries for the Calypso.

That may not be a big a problem as you think -  Just because we are allowed 10 climbs in F5B doesn't mean you have to do 10 climbs. The idea is to do as many lengths of the 150m course as you can in 200 seconds, so if you can do a lot of lengths from one climb then do that.

I have flown in an F3B comp with my F5B model (happy to try anything once and it was a fun day out!) and was completely outclassed by the regular F3B models ability to do many more lengths of the course from the single climb allowed than my F5B model could.

My plan for the Pike Perfection was to perhaps mange 3 climbs off my standard battery and then stretch as many lengths as possible from each climb. That is the great thing about F5B - you can adapt the flying style to suit the model. OK, you are not going to outclass the top specialised F5B models, but that is not the objective of the "have a go" days.

Dick

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John Minchell

Thanks Dick

I tried everywhere to get some 5 cell LiPo's but no one has any stock and Overlander can't make any up till next week. 

So if I manage to get it sorted out then it will be a 3 cell 2700 pack and I'll just up the prop size a bit and see how it goes. 

Must remember to bring the vario as well.

John M

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Alan Flockhart

Just a reminder there is another Have a Go tomorrow at Buckminster.    We will be there from 0930 through to around 1500.

Any electric glider is welcome to have a go :)

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John Minchell

Was planning on being there Alan, but the turbo to intercooler hose split yesterday on my Passat.

The car is going in and out of limp home mode, and laying down WW2 destroyer levels of black smoke screen. 

So I guess it'll be the next one, as spending Saturday on the motorway hard shoulder waiting for the RAC is not my idea of fun.

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Alan Flockhart
2 minutes ago, John Minchell said:

Was planning on being there Alan, but the turbo to intercooler hose split yesterday on my Passat.

The car is going in and out of limp home mode, and laying down WW2 destroyer levels of black smoke screen. 

So I guess it'll be the next one, as spending Saturday on the motorway hard shoulder waiting for the RAC is not my idea of fun.

Ouch - yeah not my idea of fun either :)   

Yup last event is planned for the 4th Dec

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John Minchell

OK Alan

Just spent £200 on replacing the turbo pipework, so ready for the Dec 4th Buckminster "have a go" day. 

Fingers crossed for 3rd time lucky.

From what I hear from Paul B, I will have to brush up on my one liners and witty repartee - seems you all had a fun time last Saturday.

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