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Long Mynd F3f

Dates are now posted in the calender -- second Saturday of each month through to March.

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Jon_E

Hole of Horcum F3F Winter League

 

Dates posted here http://www.nymrsc.org.uk/comp%20dates.htm,

 

First Saturday each month

 

2nd Nov

7th Dec

4th Jan

1st Feb

1st Mar

 

Plus reserve dates, 15th Feb and 15th March.

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Andy_B

Just in case anyone is unsure   gyros are banned in the midland winter league ...so we all know in advance

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simon_t

Just in case anyone is unsure   gyros are banned in the midland winter league ...so we all know in advance

Andy,

Whilst I am anti gyros, and don't plan to start using them, at the moment CIAM/FAI have stated that they are legal. What is your basis for banning gyro equipped models? Given the FAI statement, it is similar to stating 'no models more than 2M span' or 'only rudder/elevator models are allowed'. Local rules should only relate to safety aspects, and limited evidence would suggest gyros probably help safety.

Simon

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Andy_B

as i read it simon a local rule is a local rule FAI or not ..........its our hill and our comp ....we make the rules ...if we choose to follow FAI or BMFA rules then that is our prerogative . And we are more interested in a level playing field and an introduction to competition which is what the initial idea of the winter leagues were as I understood.

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isoaritfirst

We just want a nice fair fight.so gyros are banned, but if anyone wants to cheat then I guess we can't stop them. But they may not be made welcome by those that agree to play by 'my'rules

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Martin_N

I would be quite happy to fly against someone with a gyro fitted especially if they were using it on an edge.

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simon_t

I understand, but it could also be seen as distorting the league in favour of what you fly, rather than what is (currently) legal to fly in F3F. I don't think I have ever seen that precedent set in around 30 years of flying F3F. It might be interesting to see if any folks do adopt gyros, and if it improves their performance. It might ultimately not be good for 'F3F UK' if we arbitrarily ban gyros. And don't believe everything you read on RC Groups about the impact of current technology...

Simon

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isoaritfirst

Currently the majority don't have or understand gyros. So our current view is to stay with the majority and give them the best day out that we can. Situation may change in the future, but I can see no alternative that is better at the moment.

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Andy_B

Cant we just leave it as dont come to a midland league event with a gyro and expect to score points if you use one . Please feel free to use the BMFA league to experiment

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simon_t

Currently the majority don't have or understand gyros. So our current view is to stay with the majority and give them the best day out that we can. Situation may change in the future, but I can see no alternative that is better at the moment.

The alternative is do nothing. Status quo. And see if anybody bothers using gyros. If they start to dominate, then maybe consider action, but why not see?

Simon

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Martin_N

Personally I think they should be banned, but until its official I can't see how it is reasonable to do so.

Does it mean we should limit what servos we use ie if you have better spec servos, transmitter etc than another pilot you cant fly because its unfair?

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rumbey

Excuse my ignorance but I am only familar with gyros in Multicopters to keep things stable.  How will this help fly faster in F3F? Will it slow the models response in order to fly smoothly?

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Martin_N

Excuse my ignorance but I am only familar with gyros in Multicopters to keep things stable.  How will this help fly faster in F3F? Will it slow the models response in order to fly smoothly?

And that Dave is a very good point when going through the air on an edge.

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Andy_B

doesnt that sum it up Martin ..those that know get further away from those that dont ...

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satinet

I don't believe gyros are legal if you read the rules. The fact that the german proposal to ban them failed doesn't mean the existing rules don't apply. A good cd shoukd enforce the rules properly.

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paul garnett

Shall we start another thread on gyro`s, this is the winter league dates thread..

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abbof3f

Shall we start another thread on gyro`s, this is the winter league dates thread..

welsh winter league dates anyone?more bloody gyro.s flying round here than down the local post office on a thursday !!!!

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Ian F3F

The welsh and southern dates were listed in the 'Winter league dates' thread

 

Ian

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Peter G

A bit tardy with our dates but in Scotland we will be flying -

 

Sat 9th November

Sat 21st December (avoid Christmas shopping here)

Sat 11th Jan

Sat 8th Feb

Sat 8th Mar

 

Gyro's are permitted (in case I decide to experiment).

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