isoaritfirst Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Hi Aubry, Congratulations on your results since flying the Shinto. I am yet to have an opportunity to really know if its going to bring me success or not. But I am enjoying the model - and thats very important to me. My thoughts after flying the model now for a couple of months, is its great to fly. Accurate and easy. It seems to be happy in any style of turn. In the UK we have had several weeks now of very light winds and I have been impressed by just how you can mistreat the Shinto, turning very tight in poor lift may not be the best approach but if you need to the Shinto doesn't mind. I also find it impressive the way it sits in thermal turns etc, it feels very comfortable and nicely harmonised on the controls. Placing accuratley on slope edges etc is also very easy. Simon shows its a very capable model with many great wins behind it so it should be fast enough. My LDS system with the KST servos is very power hungry but works accurately. I'm sure it could be improved upon, perhaps the RDS isn't the best option if you say if it shows centering issues. The LDS that is now being offered I think has a few more size options that may allow a better installation. If I was building another then I would try hard to get a few more mm on the flap horn lengths. CG; Lots of talk on the net of 87 but I'm at 92 and quite a bit of snap (sorry I haven't measured it) Coming in with a very slight negative expo. Model feels snappy enough and can be felt/controlled around the turns. I really should try a little further back as the model doesn't punch a square as well as my FS or my Fosa. It may be the servos or the snakes. I did put a spacer across the fuselage just in front of the wing joiner and have fixed the snakes at that point. Or it may simply be the longer fuselage, its not a problem it just feels less snappy in some situations. I keep the CG during ballast by adding one rearward joiner side (1 piece) to 2 wing sleeve pieces (approx) therefore full rear joiner(2 pieces) + 4 wing slots. up to, all wing joiners (4 pieces) and all wing slots (12) I have been flying light and using less ballast than I would in other models, partly because I wanted to explore this part of the flight. Not sure if its a way forward or not but it may just allow me to use that superb balance to be able to fly very tight in very light air.. Time will tell.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme_M Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 Tony maidend his Shinto today, conditions were slightly crossed and quite light with first flight empty, as the day went on things improved, seeing Tony add ~ 500g in his fuselage ballast tube mod (Baudis tube). Seemed to groove very well, one to watch in the league this year me thinks! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted January 30, 2016 Share Posted January 30, 2016 1600 grams in mine today. Stunning lift and lots of screaming. Me and the Shinto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Couldn't resist it was going to buy an electric version, but installation looks like it's not that well sorted. Might buy a fuselage later. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubry GABANON Posted February 19, 2016 Share Posted February 19, 2016 Electric version brought by our side, waiting to measure real space to make choice... Your video you shared (on a other forum) looks great Neon orange! Love it ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 I perhaps should have said title of thread is now out of date as the uk distributor is hyperflight. Neil is trying to keep stock. I managed to get this one within a few weeks of deciding to buy another. And collected from his place just an hour down the road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon_t Posted February 20, 2016 Share Posted February 20, 2016 1 hour ago, isoaritfirst said: I perhaps should have said title of thread is now out of date as the uk distributor is hyperflight. The title is not out of date Mike - Aer-O-Tec (Stefan Eder & Max Steidle) are the designers of the plane and wing section respectively, and own the design. Vladimir builds it for them (and provided manufacturing design input). Hyperflight are distributing it in the UK, and Neil is doing a great job of getting planes and keeping the price at a reasonable level. Simon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin_N Posted February 20, 2016 Author Share Posted February 20, 2016 Oh dear Mike please accept my apologies, I just can't keep up with you experts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elecfit Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 I have an F5J Shinto with AUW of 1998grms, in light conditions the Shinto can get away from 65metres launch heights. Lands are tricky in lights weather .... compared to the floaters. This model shows very good signs all round. My F3B shinto launches 330 + from 150m line all day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted February 22, 2016 Share Posted February 22, 2016 Hi Elecfit, It was one reason why I fancied having an electric version, as the Shinto shows great handling in light conditions and I would expect it to make a very versatile option. I would want it to be able to get away with some ballast on board as well. The electric fuselage looks as if it is simply the Glider one with the nose cut off, so until I get around to fitting out the fuselage it is still an option open to me on this build. Can you let me have a few details on your choices, batteries, motor, speed controller and where you have managed to squeeze the receiver in etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted March 2, 2016 Share Posted March 2, 2016 Bright init 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubry GABANON Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Shinto T smooth DS :-) Turn the volume ON and Shinto T in the storm - conditions over FAI limits... ;-) 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natxopedreira Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Cool videos, seems very very fast, someday i have to try to do some ds laps. In your ds video.... i don't understand, where is the backside of the slope. To your left seems to be a cliff and in the right side looks like flat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Aubry is ds-ing in the rotor created by the sheer edge of the cliff, helped a little by the trees that run along the cliff edge. Its no different to having a steep ridge. Although it does mean flying low to the ground on the far turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubry GABANON Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Correct! To my left the edge cliff and on my right the rotor helped by the little trees. Just enough to take pleasure ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natxopedreira Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 Ahh ok, i understand. Just those small trees are enough.... good to know!! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubry GABANON Posted May 13, 2018 Share Posted May 13, 2018 This should be the next toy for Mike to complete the yellow one for holidays Shinto 6S with 16x10 Shinto F 6S with 16x16 :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isoaritfirst Posted May 14, 2018 Share Posted May 14, 2018 Any detail Aubry? I guess batteries are in the wing ballast slots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubry GABANON Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 No! The batteries are not in the wings ballast slots : https://www.cmsmodell.ch/gallery-modelle/elektro-segelflug/shinto-t-fes-2-99m/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aubry GABANON Posted November 30, 2018 Share Posted November 30, 2018 OK... this one does not bend - CHECKED flying weight at 4,300kgs and average wind of 18-20m.s 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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