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AlexDowell

Hello everyone

Yes call me keen I'm posting already.  Before anything don't fret I'm not building this one something are better left in there box. I've come in possession of a pristine EMP  Eclipse, now I'm very familiar with Dick Edmonds algebra series , Sean Bannister 's 8 but when I look up for info regarding Dick Edmonds Eclipse I find very little. Could someone fill in the gaps ?

Kind Regards Alex Dowell

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pete beadle

Hi Alex

Well found! Stumped me on the first question:(

I'm pretty sure the fuselage is high impact plastic from the Halton Special/ Apogee and such

Trouble is, at the time of its release I was "flat field only" and had not the slightest bit interested in planes designed (or adapted) for slope use

Also, if new designs didn't sell well Dick had a very English approach. he basically just stopped making them and quietly forgot about them(!) to this day I've never seen another one, but I hope you realise, keeping this model in NIB condition is not going to allow you to retire on the proceeds.......

Better by far to fly the thing and find out why it didn't sell:yes:

Regards

Pete

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pete beadle

Hi Alex

Next step......why not advertise on BMFA For Sale and WANTED Classifieds to see if anyone else could provide any info on the Eclipse

Be wary though there was a flat field soarer called Eclipse available at roughly the same time.....possibly moulded but definitely NOT an EMP product

Might be worth contacting the High Wycombe Club too.......a quick mail to Pete Allen possibly? but concentrate on flyers/buyers in the High Wycombe area

Persevere though.......when I put out my plea for help in finding details of the "Nymph" it was weeks before I received a reply.....but the second and third replies to me were VERY useful and comprehensive.....especially flyers that were members of other forums who provided links to other conversations on their and other forums.....

In the meantime, I'll put out a plea for help, on your behalf, on the Ivinghoe Soaring Association's website this morning too.....see if anyone there can help...I'll let you know promptly if I get any replies.....would be nice to put a pic of the box lid too but unfortunately the ISA's size limit for pics published precludes that..... 

Keep plugging away until you find the first glint of gold:yes::thumbsup::)

Regards

Pete

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Steve Haley

My father had one of these slope models from Dick to test prior to production launch and apart from the awful fuselage,  it flew very well.....

Cheers, Steve 

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Dean0

I had an Apogee, same fuselage as Pete said but around 100" span and rudder/elevator (I only had 2 function gear at the time)

Flew well but the fuselage got a bit brittle in the cold and it was almost impossible to repair with the glues available at the time.

I did see an Eclipse just once, shorter wing with a central mounted aileron servo with  push rods through the side of the fuselage driving strip ailerons,  it flew ok considering the small bump of a hill we were trying to fly on!

I say build it, chuck it of a hill and see what happens!

Dean

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pete beadle

Hi Steve, thanks for this

Did it actually go into production did Bill know?

Hopefully, AlexD will be happy knowing his Eclipse ( or maybe EclJipse!) is very rare, if not unique, no? I wonder if he could get it featured on the Antiques Roadshow!That should fox their experts for a while:)

Regards

Pete

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pete beadle

Hi all

Ready for another one yet? Anyone owned/built/flown/still possess a CALCULUS?......Pete Allen need not apply BTW, I believe he was the designated tester-in-chief...... yes Pete?:popcorn::yes::thumbsup:

Regards

Pete

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Steve Haley

The Calculus was a monster to build and fluttered like hell on fast launch, but a great thermal soaring model.....I flew mine for one season until my rx battery pack failed at the Nationals in round two fly off.....came in vertical from launch height and i was devastated....especially given the many hours to build it......the design was just to late to influence Barcs open and not structurally good enough to withstand the ever increasing launch speeds required during the F3J transitional period..... I still have the rudder in my workshop which was the only thing that survived.... !

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pete beadle

Thanks again Steve

I vaguely remember an instance in a Midlands League comp, where a launcher didn't wait to have the Calculus he was launching torn out of his hands, and the "Calc" stalled about six feet up then flew, totally out of control along the safety line, finally flattening whoever was at the end of the line who was about six inches further out onto the field than the rest......yes, monster indeed!:(

Regards

Pete

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Skip

The majority of us don't invest anywhere near as much of ourselves into our models anymore! I imagine that hurt 😢😊

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pete beadle

Hi Skip

Invest is just the right word.....these days it's the end of the really big investments that hurt the most......in the most painful place of all - the wallet!:yes::(

Regards

Pete the pensioner

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oipigface

I built a Calculus as well. It took ages, and I smashed it fairly quickly. I think that was the beginning of a sort of semi-retirement from flying, during a period when work got too serious to allow anything much else.

Some time ago (two or three years maybe), there was a post on here  from a guy who had got hold of a Calculus kit without any plans. He wanted to know if anyone had any, and I sent him mine against the promise that he would invite me to the maiden and buy me a beer.

Whoever you are: I hope it's going well, and I'm still very thirsty!

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AlexDowell

Hello Guys many thanks for all your input on this topic. I have to be honest with you all now I own a model shop (St Austell Model Centre) (Cornwall) so that's how this kit came into my possession.  I've been so busy with work I have ended up completely neglecting this post and I feel must apologise especially as you all have made a great effort to identify and place this model. It now has pride of place with my vintage display in the shop.  Many thanks from Alex Dowell. 

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pete beadle

Hi Alex

Thanks for letting me/us know

Love the display! Hope it helps to capture sales from your local "senior" flyers

I think the best news we could get from you would have been that you'd sold the Eclipse and the buyer was about to maiden it at St Margaret's Head!:).....I assume that's your local slope?

Here's wishing you a Happy and Prosperous New Year 

Regards

Pete

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oipigface

I remember SkyLeader gear. Non-reversing servos that could be converted to linear motion. How many happy hours did I spend fitting servos into things only to find they would only work in the wrong direction!

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pete beadle

Hi OPF

I used to use a Futaba "M" series with "new" servos that either had red or black stickers on the top.....black for clockwise, red for anti- clock:yes::)

Recently a mate of mine fitted four "M" series beige servos with square output drives into his Wildflecken to replace his nose weight! Nearly forty years old and still going strong........but slowly!....the 'Flecken I mean:)

Regards

Pete

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f3fman
2 hours ago, oipigface said:

I remember SkyLeader gear. Non-reversing servos that could be converted to linear motion. How many happy hours did I spend fitting servos into things only to find they would only work in the wrong direction!

Ahhh - the SRC1 servos that had a tapered splined shaft which gave more possibilities for positioning the servo arm, instead of the more usual square output shaft.

The problem was that as soon as the servo arm screw became even a little loose the servo arm would slip on the tapered spline shaft and you would lose control.   Luckily someone then invented the non-tapered splined shaft that we all know now  🙂

… and if you needed to reverse the servo direction you reversed the connections to the servo motor and the potentiometer and "Bob's your uncle … "

 

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wookman

Red and black stickers on FD16Ms and Src1s with tapered splines and the option to convert to linear, reversing pots and motors!

Been there, done that.

Still got my Skyleader Clubman in the yellow vynal covered folded aluminium box.

Ergonomics were a thing of the future back then!

We have come a long way since the mid 70s radio gear wise.

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