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FxRES Comp **CANCELLED** - Buckminster-20th & 21st July 2024
Richard Newsham posted a topic in FxRES
This competition has been cancelled for both days, Saturday 20th July and Sunday 21st July. The next contest in the 2024 FxRES National League will be two separate one-day events at the BMFA National Centre at Buckminster over the weekend Saturday 20th July 2024 and Sunday 21th July 2024. I, Richard Newsham, will be CD on the day. The contest is open to anyone with a model meeting the BMFA FxRES rules (links below). If you've not flown FxRES before, you will be very welcome as an entrant, a spectator or a helper. Scores will be entered in the 2024 FxRES National League but entry is not a commitment to the league. Please reply to this thread if you would be interested in entering on the assumption the weather will be good. Please (1,) state which class or classes you would fly and (2,) the date(s) you will fly on the weekend. Actual entry will be on the day but this will give a guide to the level of interest. Please follow this post for updates as the event approaches. I will make a go/no-go call on the weather on Thursday 18th July around 6pm. If you have a question, please ask! Details below. Date: Saturday 20th July 2024 and Sunday 21st July 2024 Location: BMFA Buckminister, Sewstern, GRANTHAM, NG33 5RW Format of the day: 08:00 Site open 10:45 Pilots briefing 11:00 to 15:00 Competition working time 15:00 Fly offs followed by prize ceremony Entry fee: £15 (£10 site fee plus £5 to the prize fund for each class entered - Buckminster season-ticket holders do not pay the site fee). The CD will distribute score cards in exchange for entry fees. FxRES is a competition class for 2m-span thermal soaring models constructed mainly from wood. Contests are a variant of the provisional FAI classes F3L (bungee launch) and F5L (electric launch) to a simplified and relaxed format. Bungee and electric launch gliders compete side by side but with separate score sheets. A competitor can fly F3L or F5L or both at FxRES contests. The full FxRES rules in the 2024 BMFA Silent Flight Rule Book (links below). The contest comprises a four-hour working time during which competitors fly up to ten timed flights. The best six count for the league and the winners on the day will be decided by additional fly-offs. F5L height limiters must be set to 100m/30seconds. F3L bungees will be provided. Please read the BMFA Buckminster Site Flying Rules BMFA membership is mandatory for entry. BMFA General Competition Rules say "All models ... must be clearly marked with the owner’s BMFA Membership number on the upper surface of the wing in letters at least 19mm high." Handwritten is fine - a felt-tipped pen will be available on the day. This is particularly important when flying or being photographed at Buckminster. 2024 BMFA Silent Flight Rules discussion with links to the BMFA and FAI rule books. From this link to the Blog page ‘’Silent Flight rules 2024’, see sections 7.2 (General) and 7.24 (FxRES) in the ‘BMFA’ download file. There are some informative posts on the "F3-RES and F5-RES - UK" Facebook group regarding where to find information. Posts 14th Feb 2024, 1st March 2024 and 17th March 2024. Important - Please monitor this post for updates as the event approaches. This is the media outlet for information regarding this event. -
**High winds and rain forecast - please see my reply below for details** The next contest in the 2024 FxRES National League will be a one-day event at the BMFA National Centre at Buckminster on Saturday 6 July 2024. I will be CD on the day. The contest is open to anyone with a model meeting the BMFA FxRES rules (links below). If you've not flown FxRES before, you will be very welcome as an entrant, a spectator or a helper. Scores will be entered in the 2024 FxRES National League but entry is not a commitment to the league. Please reply to this thread if you would be interested in entering on the assumption the weather will be good. Please also say which class or classes you would fly. Actual entry will be on the day but this will give a guide to the level of interest. Please follow this post for updates as the event approaches. I will make a go/no-go call on the weather on Thursday 4 July (Polling Day!). If you have a question, please ask! Details below. Date: Saturday 6 July 2024 Location: BMFA Buckminister, Sewstern, GRANTHAM, NG33 5RW Format of the day: 08:00 Site open 10:45 Pilots briefing 11:00 to 15:00 Competition working time 15:00 Fly offs followed by prize ceremony Entry fee: £15 (£10 site fee plus £5 to the prize fund for each class entered - Buckminster season-ticket holders do not pay the site fee). The CD will distribute score cards in exchange for entry fees. FxRES is a competition class for 2m-span thermal soaring models constructed mainly from wood. Contests are a variant of the provisional FAI classes F3L (bungee launch) and F5L (electric launch) to a simplified and relaxed format. Bungee and electric launch gliders compete side by side but with separate score sheets. A competitor can fly F3L or F5L or both at FxRES contests. The full FxRES rules in the 2024 BMFA Silent Flight Rule Book (links below). The contest comprises a four-hour working time during which competitors fly up to ten timed flights. The best six count for the league and the winners on the day will be decided by additional fly-offs. F5L height limiters must be set to 100m/30seconds. F3L bungees will be provided. Please read the BMFA Buckminster Site Flying Rules BMFA membership is mandatory for entry. BMFA General Competition Rules say "All models ... must be clearly marked with the owner’s BMFA Membership number on the upper surface of the wing in letters at least 19mm high." Handwritten is fine - a felt-tipped pen will be available on the day. This is particularly important when flying or being photographed at Buckminster. 2024 BMFA Silent Flight Rules discussion with links to the BMFA and FAI rule books 2024 BMFA Silent Flight Rule Book - See sections 7.2 (General) and 7.24 (FxRES) 2024 BMFA General Competition Rules Book This announcement will be posted on the BARCS forum and the Facebook F3-RES and F5-RES UK group.
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Hi all Lawrence and myself have been evaluating how the first ever FxRES season has gone, we have since had several discussions, batted some ideas around, and even been out to a field to look at layouts and how we can improve things for the future. The first thing we want to say is that we are extremely grateful to BARCS and the BMFA for their help, and also to everyone else that has supported and competed along the way. There's lots of stuff that we think has gone well, the competitions attracted newcomers to soaring as well as top level pilots, the 4-hour window format seemed popular, we had some impressive and exciting fly-offs, FxRES had slots in Radioglide and the SF Nationals, we saw a variety of kit models, vintage ones and home brew jobs, f3l and f5res flying alongside each other seemed to work, and we had fun doing it. But as was inevitable for a first year, we, like some others that we have spoken to, saw some issues that have to be addressed. Without doubt the biggest one has been keeping the designated landing area safe, and application of the 30m out landing rule. There has also been some comments that a dedicated timer gives an unfair advantage to a competitor that wants to fly both classes (f3l/f5RES), we take the view that everyone has the same opportunity to bring a friend, but the jury is out on that one! We have some thoughts, but before firming up any new rules, we would like to put our ideas in public and ask for constructive feedback, especially from those that have competed. Please bear in mind that we don't think we should change too much too fast, and we would like to keep to the original objective. '7.24.1.2 Objective: (a) To provide an inexpensive class of radio-controlled model glider soaring with straightforward rules which emphasise pilot skills, to be promoted for wide scale adoption and enjoyment in the UK model flying community. (b) FX-RES competitions are intended for F3L and F5RES pilots to jointly compete alongside each other.' The safe landing area idea: (We have taken inspiration from a set up we saw used in a f3l competition in Turkey.) To stop models flying through or on the flight line we propose that we create a landing box that starts behind a 5m line that is downwind from the flight line. To emulate f3l rules, the landing area would then be designated by the CD on the day. In practice, we would probably set up another line, 30m downwind from the 5m line and close the sides to make a box that would correspond with the length of the flight line. We could mark the area out with football training cones and use a measuring wheel to set up (Which could also be used in a dispute!) We would also layout spots with 15m tapes (emulates f3l rules). Their use would predominately be for a fly-off, or full f3l comps, but could also help to designate the landing area. We are also trying to get hold of a PA system that would have auto announcements so that competitions would self-run, allowing a CD more time to keep tabs on everything, but that depends on funding. Finally, we were very conscious of the time that it took to do the scores at the end and we made some mistakes, so we are looking at how we can improve on that. We look forward to any feedback.
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MONDAY, 29 AUGUST 2022 BMFA Buckminster Sewstern Grantham Lincolnshire NG33 5RW 10:45 pilots briefing 11:00 to 15:00 competition window 15:00 fly-off if necessary/prize ceremony The entry fee is £15, paid in advance. The last date to enter is 23rd August. Payment can be made here https://www.barcs.co.uk/store/category/7-bmfa-sf-nationals/ FxRES is a 2m soaring class with models constructed mainly from wood. Competitions are a variant of the FAI F3L provisional class, that has a simple format with a 4-hour window where competitors can fly up to 10 timed flights (6 min max), best 6 flights count, no landing bonus. This allows F3L and F5RES to compete alongside each other but have different score sheets. A competitor can fly both classes if they wish. Full set of rules is 7.24 in the SF rule book, BMFA membership is a must. F5RES height limiters set to 100m/30seconds, bungees are provided, please do not use your own? More about FxRES can be found at www.fxres.co.uk See less
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EDIT: - Only running on Saturday, Sunday is too windy This is a two-day event, competitions will run on both Saturday and Sunday Location: BMFA Buckminster Sewstern Grantham Lincolnshire NG33 5RW Format of the day: 10:45 pilots briefing 11:00 to 15:00 competition window 15:00 fly off if necessary/prize ceremony Entry fee is £15, (£10 to Buckminster and £5 for a prize fund) FxRES is a 2m soaring class with models constructed mainly from wood. Competitions are a variant of the FAI F3L provisional class, that has a simplified format with a 4-hour window where competitors can fly up to 10 timed flights (6 min max), best 6 flights count, no landing bonus. This allows F3L and F5RES to compete alongside each other but have different score sheets. A competitor can fly both classes if they wish. Full set of rules is 7.24 in the SF rule book, BMFA membership is a must. F5RES height limiters set to 100m/30seconds, bungees are provided, please do not use your own? It would help if competitors can express their interest by posting on this thread Please bookmark this post for updates?
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Having seen several F3-RES gliders hit wing flutter on the bungee and watched as tailplane flutter led to the sad demise of an F5-RES under power on Saturday, I thought it was about time I got past my own limited understanding and read more about the causes and cures. I found the link below a useful summary of the physics of causes and fixes. If you want to skip the maths, look at the pictures then jump to page 9 for a summary of the problem and possible fixes. I've posted this to the Facebook group too as I know not everyone is on BARCS. https://www.kimerius.com/app/download/5784128815/Aerodynamic+Flutter.pdf
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Confirmation that the Comp is running on Saturday 14th at 11:00 This is a day dedicated to 2m gliders. FxRES & F5J (2metre) will be flown as a joint event on the 14th or the 15th May, depending upon weather and pilot availability. we will choose the final day of the event on the run up to the weekend. EDIT: All classes, F3L, F5RES and 'Open' (Full house f5j style 2 metre models) will be flown together to FxRES rules. Only F3L and F5RES can qualify for the national league but should be an interesting day with some top level f5j pilots competing. Competitors can enter as many classes as they wish. Location: The field is by Wetlands Lakes near Retford Nottinghamshire. Farm Post Code is DN22 8SB Turn right between an old farm house and a barn. Up and over a small steep hill, flying will be on one of the fields on the right. 53.359669,-0.948755 https://maps.app.goo.gl/hv7h8kNj3e17Jo4w6 10:45 pilots briefing 11:00 to 15:00 competition window 15:00 fly off if necessary/prize ceremony Entry fee £10 (Split between field cost and prize fund) FxRES is a 2m soaring class with models constructed mainly from wood. Competitions are a variant of the FAI F3L provisional class, that has a simplified format with a 4 hour window where competitors can fly up to 10 timed flights (6 min max), best 6 flights count, no landing bonus. This allows F3L and F5RES to compete alongside each other but have different score sheets. A competitor can fly both classes if they wish. Full set of rules is 7.24 in the SF rule book, BMFA membership is a must. F5RES height limiters set to 100m/30seconds, bungees are provided, please do not use your own? With effect from 1st January 2022, BMFA General Rules have changed to require competition models to display of either the owner’s BMFA number or their FAI registration number in UK competitions. Please visit fxres.co.uk for more details. It would help if competitors can express their interest by posting on this thread Please bookmark this post for updates?
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FxRES competitions will be run on both the bank holiday Friday and Saturday The format of the day is: 10:45 pilots briefing 11:00 to 15:00 competition window 15:00 fly off if necessary/prize ceremony Entry fee is £15, (£10 to Buckminster and £5 for a prize fund) Location: BMFA Buckminster Sewstern Grantham Lincolnshire, NG33 5RW More details on directions HERE FxRES is a 2m soaring class with models constructed mainly from wood. Competitions are a variant of the FAI F3L provisional class, that has a simple format with a 4 hour window where competitors can fly up to 10 timed flights (6 min max), best 6 flights count, no landing bonus. This allows F3L and F5RES to compete alongside each other but have different score sheets. A competitor can fly both classes if they wish. Full set of rules is 7.24 in the SF rule book , BMFA membership is a must. F5RES height limiters set to 100m/30seconds, bungees are provided, please do not use your own? With effect from 1st January 2022, BMFA General Rules have changed to require competition models to display of either the owner’s BMFA number or their FAI registration number in UK competitions. The reason is to prove ownership of the model. All entrants in any event must be the owner of the model and must display the owner’s number. All models other than Scale or Indoor Free Flight must be clearly marked with the owner’s membership number on the upper surface of the wing in letters at least 19 mm high (Note - The FAI requirement is that the alpha/numeric characters are at least 25 mm high) More about FxRES can be found here fxres.co.uk Please post here your interest in participation, stating your name and the class you will fly (F3L / F5RES) and which days you will attend (ie. Fri, Sat or both)? Weather might play a part so bookmark this post for updates. Competitor list to gauge numbers, not definitive. Rob Craddock F5RES Bob Goodenough F5RES/F3L Lawrence Drennan F3L Martin Oldershaw F3L Gordon B F3L/F5RES
