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  1. COMP CANCELLED After reviewing the weather forecasts from various web sites, we have reluctantly decided to cancel this competition. Tonbridge club are hosting a BMFA League F5J competition at Leigh Park Farm, Nr Tonbridge, Kent on Sunday 28th October 2018. We will be running a relaxed and fun competition for both existing competition flyers and new pilots alike. All are welcome with plenty of help available on the day for F5J newbie's. Directions to the field can be found here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Leigh+Park+Farm/@51.2091254,0.19327,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47df4fda3f5fd36d:0xfd76d04136677dd9?hl=en The competition will be run to F5J rules with UK variations as published by the BMFA. Copy of the full rules can be found here: http://bmfa.org/DesktopModules/Bring2mind/DMX/Download.aspx?Command=Core_Download&EntryId=2443&language=en-GB&PortalId=0&TabId=219 The main points for BMFA F5J comps are: - Either Open or 2m may be flown, not both. - Motor restart may be used (results in a zero flight score), and therefore you need only to use your eSoaring switch BUT you must reset the (200m) height limit to 300m this can often be done easily by using a reader, otherwise use a computer. - As in eSoaring, you must provide a reader, so that your timekeeper can check your launch height immediately after landing. - Minimum of 4 rounds to be flown. - CD will announce whether or not a Fly-Off will be flown before the start. Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of insurance (BMFA membership card is sufficient) required Closing date for entries is 6.00pm Friday 26th October 2018 In the event that there is any doubt as to whether the event will be run due to forecasted inclement weather, a final decision will be posted on the BARCS website no later than 3pm on Saturday 27th October. We look forward to welcoming you. Book in from 9am. First flight’s at 10am prompt. Colin/Graham Please enter this competition by posting here on this thread: 1) Your name 2) Class being entered - i.e. OPEN or 2 METRE 3) Preferred Frequency if on 35Mhz. 4) BMFA Number Entry list to date: 1. Graham Wicks, Open, 2.4, BMFA 052827 2. Colin Boorman, Open 2.4, BMFA 027713 3. Kevin Beale, Open, 2.4, BMFA 040788 4. Colin Paddon, Open, 2.4, BMFA 073473 5. Nick Jackson, Open, BMFA 123273 6. Chas Dunster, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 7. Eddy Small, Open, 2.4GHz, BMFA 063558 8. Eamon Keating, Open, 2.4GhZ, BMFA 192268 9. Bob Ryan, Open, BMFA no. 76538 10. Peter Mitchell, Open, 2.4, BMFA 33859 11. Ian Duff, Open, 2.4ghz, BMFA 018894 12. Al Lipscombe, Open, 2.4 GHz, S067235 13. Phil Ramsey, Open, 2.4Ghz, BMFA tba 14. Derek Potter, Open, 2.4 Ghz, BMFA tba 15. Steve Knowles, Open, 2.4, BMFA 70799 16. Colin Lucas, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 17. Alan Twine, open, 2.4, BMFA 067979 18. Nick Jackson, Open, 2.4, BMFA 123273 19. Peter Allen, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 20. Bob Hope, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba
  2. In response to the call for some new website content here’s an update on what’s been happening development wise with the PROGLIDE since the last update (March 2017). Short answer, quite a lot! There has now been sufficient time and competitions since the last update to categorically be able to say that the PROGLIDE has shown itself to be a thoroughbred F5J design. I’m not going to list (boring for most people) the many comp successes Kevin and I have achieved with the PROGLIDE other than suffice to say there’s been quite a few of them. Kevin up till now has continued to champion our original wing section whilst I use only the thin winged Synergy section. Both versions have though shown themselves to be excellent performers. We have however found that the Synergy section version offers some advantages over the original wing section in that it hangs in there just as well but shows better penetration in the wind. So what have we been up to over the past year and a half? Firstly we decided that we would like to slim down the fuselage pod to make it more streamlined in its appearance and have a little less air resistance/drag but to still have enough internal space to get everything in without any shoehorning. The attached pictures clearly show just how much its been slimmed down far better than any words can. Kevin, the teams master mould maker, set to work making a new plug followed by new moulds. He did a great job as the pictures show. The other major item we both felt the design would benefit from going forward was to have the ability to produce our own custom sized/lay-ups booms. Whist the commercial versions we have been using certainly did the job they were a tad too lightweight and the size at the tail end was not optimum. After watching a bunch of Youtube videos on the best way for the home builder to make booms we went the opposite way and decided to mould the booms! I had an old Fendon fibreglass boom from way back that just happened to be the ideal size for our new fuselage pod and Kevin used this to make the new boom mould. Unfortunately I forgot to take any pics of the new boom moulds but will do so when I next use them. I had pretty much got on top of producing the carbon fuselage pods to a good standard and right from the first pull the new pods worked out really well. It was a lot stronger and less “Squidgy” under the wing than the original version it was replacing and at 88g AUW, it was light. Next up was the new booms. I had no idea what layup would provide the required rigidity/strength and weight we were looking for. At first I thought the easy way would be to do simple short sections of boom with different layups to determine this. This didn’t work out as I later realised of course that you needed the entire length of the boom in order to test the lateral flex was rigid enough. So no option other than to do various full size test lay-up’s to determine what worked. Home composite building is all about testing , getting it wrong followed by more testing! Laying the booms up in long thin moulds is no easy task to get it spot on and I am still working on the best way to achieve 100% results 100% of the time. Having said that even the first boom out of the mould with a little post production repair work, was totally usable and at 45g not too bad. Its overall strength/rigidity is significantly better than the commercial versions we had been using but it did weigh 9g more. Kevin in fact has used this first boom on his latest model, the PROGLIDE EXTREME. (More on this later). After four complete boom test/lay-ups our preferred lay-up was defined. (Outer - 40g Carboline, Middle-200g UniCarbon, Inner 120g R&G Fibreglass) Final weight of the booms with this lay-up was 41g. Hopefully the weight will continue to come down with more practice. Making the bladders for the booms turned out to be a PITA compared to the fuselage pod bladders, so I’m investigating alternatives for this. We are often asked what pressure we use with our bladders. It surprises a lot of people when they are told it’s between 6-9 psi. The variable air pressure for this task is handled by a £50 EBay airbrush compressor which has a small air reservoir tank. You would be amazed at how much epoxy is expelled from the moulds even at this relatively low psi! I’m sure you’d be able to expel a little more epoxy with a higher psi but its not required for home building as the pics show. Next up was a complete re-work of the spar structure for the centre panel to try and limit wing flex particularly with the thin Synergy sectioned wing. It was decided to completely re-design the spar structure and how it was made. It’s now produced completely outside of the wing and then dropped into a full span channel that is cut from the underside of the wing that finishes 2mm from the top surface of the wing. This has the added benefit that the top surface of the wing requires no additional finishing and gives a perfect top surface ready for lay-up/bagging. Only the underside of the wing where the spar channel is requires minor filling/sanding. The spar uses the protruded commercial 0.5 x 10mm carbon strip top and bottom with solid foam in-between which is then completely wrapped in carbon sock. At the centre of the wing the spars have a substantial moulded carbon dihedral brace that extends out approx 125mm each side. This is made using a simple right angled Aluminium mould. The pics again show it better than words do. I do my spars in two bits and then join the centre panel with the dihedral brace but Kevin makes the entire spar assembly in one piece and drops it into the entire wing centre section in one go. Both methods work fine. Joiner boxes at the ends of the centre section are made by using carbon sock moulded over a 10 x 10mm Ali square tube. Two complete wraps of greaseproof paper are first put around the Ali before the carbon sock is slid on, stretched out and epoxy applied. The greaseproof paper must extend past the ends of the sock by 50mm to ensure no epoxy creeps under it. The greaseproof paper also provides the working clearance fit for the joiners. This technique allows the lightweight carbon joiner box’s to slide off easily from the aluminium after its removed from bagging. The greaseproof paper simply twists out and away from the inner shell of the box’s. Voila, perfect lightweight wing joiner box’s. The same technique is used to produce the carbon tubes now used in the Fin/Rudder. (See pics). New lightweight wing joiners have been produced to keep the weight/inertia down towards the tips as low as possible. The original method of production resulted in each set of joiners weighing approx. 25g. A set of the new joiners weighs approx. 9.5g! At the moment we are carrying on using our original method of spar set-up for the wing tips. Needless to say there is a lot less stress on the wings at the tips compared to the centre section. If however it proves to be the case that the wing tips need or would benefit from the new spar construction method, albeit with a small increase in weight, we will do so. A simplified/lighter method of attaching the fin/rudder to the boom has now been designed. (see pics). One thing that really helped us with the continuing development of the PROGLIDE was the acquisition of a 3D printer. (Every modeller should have one!). We are using this to produce all sorts of PROGLIDE parts including, motor mounts, servo frames, tail pod twin servo carrier, wing end ribs, control horns, centre panel Mpx wing/fuselage plug/socket holders, small part moulds and so on. It’s probably the most useful thing I’ve ever bought for modelling. It took me a bit of time to get on top of it all but it was worth the effort for sure. Finally, this leads me on to our latest development, the PROGLIDE EXTREME. We are currently both building a reduced span (3.55m) version, which will still be light (1150-1250g AUW) but that can handle being ballasted with up to 700-800g of ballast for windy weather use without excessive wing flex. Well that’s the plan at least. The smaller span should also help the tight turning ability in small thermals. Kevin has already produced his EXTREME’S super stiff centre panel using the new centre panel spar lay-up and to quote his words ”I think it would take an F3J tow”. I find that observation reassuring! However, as always, only time and testing will confirm this. The pics attached to this update say a thousand words but if you have any questions please feel free to ask and we will do our best to answer them. Colin Paddon / Kevin Beale View full f5j article event or report
  3. ThermalBoy

    PROGLIDE – Home Built Composite F5J Glider - Update October 2018

    In response to the call for some new website content here’s an update on what’s been happening development wise with the PROGLIDE since the last update (March 2017). Short answer, quite a lot! There has now been sufficient time and competitions since the last update to categorically be able to say that the PROGLIDE has shown itself to be a thoroughbred F5J design. I’m not going to list (boring for most people) the many comp successes Kevin and I have achieved with the PROGLIDE other than suffice to say there’s been quite a few of them. Kevin up till now has continued to champion our original wing section whilst I use only the thin winged Synergy section. Both versions have though shown themselves to be excellent performers. We have however found that the Synergy section version offers some advantages over the original wing section in that it hangs in there just as well but shows better penetration in the wind. So what have we been up to over the past year and a half? Firstly we decided that we would like to slim down the fuselage pod to make it more streamlined in its appearance and have a little less air resistance/drag but to still have enough internal space to get everything in without any shoehorning. The attached pictures clearly show just how much its been slimmed down far better than any words can. Kevin, the teams master mould maker, set to work making a new plug followed by new moulds. He did a great job as the pictures show. The other major item we both felt the design would benefit from going forward was to have the ability to produce our own custom sized/lay-ups booms. Whist the commercial versions we have been using certainly did the job they were a tad too lightweight and the size at the tail end was not optimum. After watching a bunch of Youtube videos on the best way for the home builder to make booms we went the opposite way and decided to mould the booms! I had an old Fendon fibreglass boom from way back that just happened to be the ideal size for our new fuselage pod and Kevin used this to make the new boom mould. Unfortunately I forgot to take any pics of the new boom moulds but will do so when I next use them. I had pretty much got on top of producing the carbon fuselage pods to a good standard and right from the first pull the new pods worked out really well. It was a lot stronger and less “Squidgy” under the wing than the original version it was replacing and at 88g AUW, it was light. Next up was the new booms. I had no idea what layup would provide the required rigidity/strength and weight we were looking for. At first I thought the easy way would be to do simple short sections of boom with different layups to determine this. This didn’t work out as I later realised of course that you needed the entire length of the boom in order to test the lateral flex was rigid enough. So no option other than to do various full size test lay-up’s to determine what worked. Home composite building is all about testing , getting it wrong followed by more testing! Laying the booms up in long thin moulds is no easy task to get it spot on and I am still working on the best way to achieve 100% results 100% of the time. Having said that even the first boom out of the mould with a little post production repair work, was totally usable and at 45g not too bad. Its overall strength/rigidity is significantly better than the commercial versions we had been using but it did weigh 9g more. Kevin in fact has used this first boom on his latest model, the PROGLIDE EXTREME. (More on this later). After four complete boom test/lay-ups our preferred lay-up was defined. (Outer - 40g Carboline, Middle-200g UniCarbon, Inner 120g R&G Fibreglass) Final weight of the booms with this lay-up was 41g. Hopefully the weight will continue to come down with more practice. Making the bladders for the booms turned out to be a PITA compared to the fuselage pod bladders, so I’m investigating alternatives for this. We are often asked what pressure we use with our bladders. It surprises a lot of people when they are told it’s between 6-9 psi. The variable air pressure for this task is handled by a £50 EBay airbrush compressor which has a small air reservoir tank. You would be amazed at how much epoxy is expelled from the moulds even at this relatively low psi! I’m sure you’d be able to expel a little more epoxy with a higher psi but its not required for home building as the pics show. Next up was a complete re-work of the spar structure for the centre panel to try and limit wing flex particularly with the thin Synergy sectioned wing. It was decided to completely re-design the spar structure and how it was made. It’s now produced completely outside of the wing and then dropped into a full span channel that is cut from the underside of the wing that finishes 2mm from the top surface of the wing. This has the added benefit that the top surface of the wing requires no additional finishing and gives a perfect top surface ready for lay-up/bagging. Only the underside of the wing where the spar channel is requires minor filling/sanding. The spar uses the protruded commercial 0.5 x 10mm carbon strip top and bottom with solid foam in-between which is then completely wrapped in carbon sock. At the centre of the wing the spars have a substantial moulded carbon dihedral brace that extends out approx 125mm each side. This is made using a simple right angled Aluminium mould. The pics again show it better than words do. I do my spars in two bits and then join the centre panel with the dihedral brace but Kevin makes the entire spar assembly in one piece and drops it into the entire wing centre section in one go. Both methods work fine. Joiner boxes at the ends of the centre section are made by using carbon sock moulded over a 10 x 10mm Ali square tube. Two complete wraps of greaseproof paper are first put around the Ali before the carbon sock is slid on, stretched out and epoxy applied. The greaseproof paper must extend past the ends of the sock by 50mm to ensure no epoxy creeps under it. The greaseproof paper also provides the working clearance fit for the joiners. This technique allows the lightweight carbon joiner box’s to slide off easily from the aluminium after its removed from bagging. The greaseproof paper simply twists out and away from the inner shell of the box’s. Voila, perfect lightweight wing joiner box’s. The same technique is used to produce the carbon tubes now used in the Fin/Rudder. (See pics). New lightweight wing joiners have been produced to keep the weight/inertia down towards the tips as low as possible. The original method of production resulted in each set of joiners weighing approx. 25g. A set of the new joiners weighs approx. 9.5g! At the moment we are carrying on using our original method of spar set-up for the wing tips. Needless to say there is a lot less stress on the wings at the tips compared to the centre section. If however it proves to be the case that the wing tips need or would benefit from the new spar construction method, albeit with a small increase in weight, we will do so. A simplified/lighter method of attaching the fin/rudder to the boom has now been designed. (see pics). One thing that really helped us with the continuing development of the PROGLIDE was the acquisition of a 3D printer. (Every modeller should have one!). We are using this to produce all sorts of PROGLIDE parts including, motor mounts, servo frames, tail pod twin servo carrier, wing end ribs, control horns, centre panel Mpx wing/fuselage plug/socket holders, small part moulds and so on. It’s probably the most useful thing I’ve ever bought for modelling. It took me a bit of time to get on top of it all but it was worth the effort for sure. Finally, this leads me on to our latest development, the PROGLIDE EXTREME. We are currently both building a reduced span (3.55m) version, which will still be light (1150-1250g AUW) but that can handle being ballasted with up to 700-800g of ballast for windy weather use without excessive wing flex. Well that’s the plan at least. The smaller span should also help the tight turning ability in small thermals. Kevin has already produced his EXTREME’S super stiff centre panel using the new centre panel spar lay-up and to quote his words ”I think it would take an F3J tow”. I find that observation reassuring! However, as always, only time and testing will confirm this. The pics attached to this update say a thousand words but if you have any questions please feel free to ask and we will do our best to answer them. Colin Paddon / Kevin Beale
  4. Bartletts 200 League 2018. Sept 16th (original planned for Sept 9th) will be held at the SADMAC Field (Sittingbourne & District Model Aircraft Club Kent see map below) organised by Kent Interclub - CD Ian Nicholls Please let me know by 6pm latest on Friday 14th Sept. if you wish to enter to enable the team to get everything ready for Sunday. Please book in from 0900, pilots briefing will be at 0945 and start at 1000 prompt to allow 6 rounds to be flown. Rules unchanged, 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each score points in their own league. 2 entries allowed, but must be with different class models. Height limiter set to any height up to 200mtrs, and motor run time of 30sec. Penalty for launching over 200mtrs, but no bonus for launching below 200mtrs. Entry £5.00 per class, payable on the day. Please register your entry here Ian Nicholls Open Eamon Keating Open Peter Mitchell Open Mike Connell Open Brian Austin Open Eddy Small Open Garry Matthews Open Nick Jackson Open Alan Twine Open Gordon Loomes Open David Yale Open Ray Gadenne Open Randy Taylor Open Tony Wood Open John Postle Open Brian Martin Open Keith Benton Open Possible David Phillips Open Just to confirm the competition will run as proposed and the field (along the track behind the farmhouse) will be sign posted after 0830. I will be doing the matrix tomorrow morning so please let me know if you aren't able to fly for any reason (I don't need to know why!) by 10am Lunch will be 20 + minutes after Round 3 of 6 at 12:15. There will be 3 Group per round so we will finish earlier than normal. Thanks Ian
  5. Towner Trophy F5J Competition - Sunday 2 September 2018 ENTRIES MUST BE RECEIVED BY 6PM FRIDAY 31st Reminder Entrants can designate a helper when registering, or email whitstable.nick@outlook.com to designate a helper if already registered A BMFA League F5J competition to be held at *Sutton Valence Nr Maidstone, Kent. * field location may vary so please check this thread/site for directions before Saturday 1st September. Field location will be alternatives of Forsham Lane or Heniker Lane follow signs with " A Glider" nearest post code is ME17 3AU see map attached The competition will be run to F5J rules with UK variations as published by the BMFA. Two classes of model can be entered, either Open or 2Metre but only one entry permitted. Your model must have an approved height limiting/data logging device (AMRT) which must be able to show the max height your model goes to during its motor run time plus 10 seconds after your motor is shut off. The limiting function must be set to allow maximum 30seconds motor run time, and the height limiting function must either be disabled or set to 300m. Motor restart is permitted at any time during flight for safety reasons, but will result in a zero score for that round. 6 rounds will be flown if conditions permit. Lowest Round score will be dropped after 5 rounds and there will NOT be a flyoff Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of BMFA membership (card is sufficient) required. Book in from 9am. First flight 10am. Trophy and prizes will be awarded on the day and points scored will go towards the National League. Please enter this competition by posting here or email the CD colin.boorman@btinternet.com ENTRIES (state model Class and if not 2.4) Colin Boorman Open Nick Jackson Open Ian Nicholls Open Eddy Small Open Mike Connell Open Kevin Beale Open Colin Paddon Open Brian Austin Open Alan Twine Open Peter Mitchell Open Richard Harris Open Keith Fisher Open Garry Matthews Open Ray Gadenne Open Tony Wood Open John Barrow Open Jim Hathaway Open Mike Hodgkiss Open Phil Ramsey Open Bob Hope Open Steve Knowles Open Rob Love Open
  6. Change of venue due to shooting club event at Bartletts Farm - now to be held at Little Bentley Polo Club, Rectory Road, Little Bentley, Essex, CO7 8SN. Your model must have an approved height limiting/data logging device (AMRT) which must be able to show the max height your model goes to during its motor run time plus 10 seconds after your motor is shut off. The limiting function must be set to allow maximum 30seconds motor run time, and the height limiting function must either be disabled or set to 300m. Motor restart is permitted at any time during flight for safety reasons, but will result in a zero score for that round. Two classes of model can be entered, either Open or 2Metre but only one entry permitted. Prizes awarded on the day and points scored will go towards the National League. The competition will be run to BMFA Local Rules, 6 rounds will be flown if conditions permit and there will not be a flyoff. Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of BMFA membership (card is sufficient) required. Timing on the day may vary, and all/any help to set up the field will be appreciated. But the plan is as usual, book in from 9am. First flight around 10am. Tony Merritt - BMFA 142327 - 2m Simon Conran - BMFA 195226 - 2m Paul Wainwright - BMFA 047845 - Open David Jowers - BMFA 043983 - 2m Steve Knowles - BMFA 70799 - Open Graham Wicks - BMFA 052827 - Open Randy Taylor - BMFA 165603 - Open Brian Austin - BMFA 57851 - Open John Hovell - BMFA 40572 - Open Please post your entries on this thread by 6pm on Saturday 11th August along with your BMFA number and model class
  7. tonym

    BMFA F5J - Little Bentley, Essex

    Details on the thread here
  8. Venue is Little Bentley Polo Club, Rectory Road, Essex, CO7 8SN. Your model must have an approved height limiting/data logging device (AMRT) which must be able to show the max height your model goes to during its motor run time plus 10 seconds after your motor is shut off. The limiting function must be set to allow maximum 30seconds motor run time, and the height limiting function must either be disabled or set to 300m. Motor restart is permitted at any time during flight for safety reasons, but will result in a zero score for that round. Two classes of model can be entered, either Open or 2Metre but only one entry permitted. Prizes awarded on the day and points scored will go towards the National League. The competition will be run to BMFA Local Rules, 6 rounds will be flown if conditions permit and there will not be a flyoff. Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of BMFA membership (card is sufficient) required. Timing on the day may vary, and all/any help to set up the field will be appreciated. But the plan is as usual, book in from 9am. First flight around 10am. Tony Merritt - BMFA 142327 - 2m Eamon Keating - BMFA 192268 - Open Peter Ley - BMFA 187230 - Open Garry Matthews - BMFA 032611 - Open Brian Austin - BMFA 57851 - Open Simon Thornton - BMFA 069287 - Open Graham Wicks - BMFA 052827 - Open Colin Paddon - BMFA 073473 - Open Randy Taylor - BMFA 165603 - Open Simon Conran - BMFA 195226 - 2m Alan Twine - BMFA 067979 - Open Steve Knowles - BMFA 70799 - Open Paul Wainwright - BMFA 047845 - Open Julian Benz - BMFA 208785 - Open Peter Mitchell - BMFA 33859 - Open Kevin Beale - BMFA 40788 - Open Please post your entries on this thread by 6pm on Saturday 28th July along with your BMFA number and model class
  9. simon_t

    Vinco F5J

    Another excellent looking F5J model coming soon - maiden today at Vitoria, Spain. Designer Jorge Medina (Tecnoepoxy). RTF weight 1300g, 4m span: Simon
  10. PeteMitchell

    BARCS-ELG 10th June 2018

    The event is a ‘Bartletts League’ qualifier and will be run at Bartletts Farm, on our new field which is located at the top end of the entrance lane, NOT the ‘old’ field on the r/h side of the lane. Our land owner has now given us permission to drive on the grassed area ( which is about to be cut) assuming that the ground is hard enough to take vehicles without damage. We will know on the day, but it should mean we can drive and park along the appropriate side of the field and fly from the back of our cars. Please do not drive on the grassed area until a decision is taken regarding wind direction etc. The usual 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each can score points in their own Bartletts league. Please note that models must comply with BARCS class restrictions if you wish to also score in the appropriate BARCS Leagues. 2 entries allowed per pilot, but each entry must be with different class models. AMRT (Height limiter) CAN be set to any height up to 300mtrs, but MUST be set with a maximum motor run time of 30sec. Scoring as per F5J, i.e. a penalty of 3 points per metre for launching over 200mtrs, BUT no bonus for launching below 200mtrs. And don’t forget, not only can you re start your motor in an emergency (which cancels that flight score) but you get one re launch in a slot if you find it necessary Entry £5.00 payable on the day. Please register your entry in this thread, all will be assumed to on 2.4 unless advised Peter Ley Open Eamon Keating Open Brian Austin Open Garry Matthews Open Nick Jackson Open Eddy Small Open Paul Wainwright Open Paul Wainwright 2 M Mike Connell Open Ian Nicholls Open Tony Merritt 2 M Allan Twine Open Randy Taylor Open John Hovell Open Graham Wicks Open Steve Knowles Open
  11. Entry is now open for Interglide 2018. The event will take place over the weekend 23rd - 24th June at the same location as last year. Full details together with online and postal entry is available on the Interglide website. Entry has been open two days and already there are 9 pilots from France entered. https://www.interglide.co.uk/ Report from the 2017 event can be seen here https://www.interglide.co.uk/2017-results
  12. RESULTS Results below. Pics to follow. COMP REPORT One word describes this comp….Challenging! The usual Tonbridge comp team arrived early at Leigh Park Farm’s acres of freshly mown grass to set the field up. Fortunately no cow patties were to be seen anywhere but the ground was rock hard. It was of course raining when we arrived but the weather forecast was for it to stop fairly quickly and it did. The wind however was forecast to start off at around 11mph but to continue to rise throughout the day which turned out to be the case. After a lot of late pull-outs we ended up with 26 competitors of whom 24 actually flew. We were pleased to see and welcome one of the top German F5J flyers, Julian Benz, to the comp adding some mainland European interest to the day. The morning was certainly the easier part of the day in terms of flying conditions but even then some slots were not flown out. Average launch heights ranged between 150 -180 meters but there were a few massive height launches that still failed to fly the slot out such was the level of difficulty in reading the air. Conditions were extremely challenging throughout the day with some slots enjoying good lift but many had equal measure of widespread sink. A wrong read of the air often resulting in an early landing. After lunch, the wind continued to gain significantly in strength and at times was very turbulent if you strayed too close to the trees. Reading the air became difficult to say the least. A fair number of slots in the afternoon were not flown out . In terms of what models were flown, no one model /design seemed to be dominant. All the usual moulded models, Xplorers, Shadows, Optimists, Infinity’s, Pikes et al were being flown . Of note were two very nice looking (new to us) Xplorer V Tail versions that Julian Benz flew. Super looking planes. We finished the day around 5pm having flown 6 rounds with a 45 minute lunch break. My thanks must go to Eamon’s daughter Portia who kindly took the scores in for us all day long. Full results can be found below. On a personal note it was very pleasing for both Kevin and I to again see our home built/designed Proglide succeed against a very competitive field of flyers/models. Brian Austin also flew his own designed/homebuilt model throughout the day. It’s always great to see home built models competing but I’m somewhat biased on this! My thanks to Graham, Kevin and Colin B for getting out of bed early to help set the field up and run the comp. We look forward to seeing you all again at the Tonbridge September F5J comp. Colin Paddon - CD Tonbridge F5J Competition - Sunday 17 June 2018 Tonbridge club are hosting a BMFA League F5J competition at Leigh Park Farm, Nr Tonbridge, Kent on Sunday 17 June 2018. We will be running a relaxed and fun competition for both existing competition flyers and new pilots alike. All are welcome with plenty of help available on the day for F5J newbie's. Directions to the field can be found here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Leigh+Park+Farm/@51.2091254,0.19327,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47df4fda3f5fd36d:0xfd76d04136677dd9?hl=en The competition will be run to F5J rules with UK variations as published by the BMFA. Copy of the full rules can be found here: http://bmfa.org/DesktopModules/Bring2mind/DMX/Download.aspx?Command=Core_Download&EntryId=2443&language=en-GB&PortalId=0&TabId=219 The main points for BMFA F5J comps are: - Either Open or 2m may be flown, not both. - Motor restart may be used (results in a zero flight score), and therefore you need only tuse your eSoaring switch BUT you must reset the (200m) height limit to 300m this can often be done easily by using a reader, otherwise use a computer. - As in eSoaring, you must provide a reader, so that your timekeeper can check your launch height immediately after landing. - Minimum of 4 rounds to be flown. - CD will announce whether or not a Fly-Off will be flown before the start. Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of insurance (BMFA membership card is sufficient) required Closing date for entries is 6.00pm Friday 15th June 2018 In the event that there is any doubt as to whether the event will be run due to forecasted inclement weather, a final decision will be posted on the BARCS website no later than 4pm on Saturday 16th June. We look forward to welcoming you on the field. Book in from 9am. First flight’s at 10am Colin/Graham Please enter this competition by posting here on this thread: 1) Your name 2) Class being entered - i.e. OPEN or 2 METRE 3) Preferred Frequency if on 35Mhz. 4) BMFA Number Entry list to date: 1. Graham Wicks, Open, 2.4, BMFA 052827 2. Colin Boorman, Open 2.4, BMFA 027713 3. Kevin Beale, Open, 2.4, BMFA 040788 4. Colin Paddon, Open, 2.4, BMFA 073473 5. Eamon Keating, Open, 2.4GhZ, BMFA 192268 6. Ian Nicholls, OPEN 2.4GHz BMFA 39293 7. Tony Merrit, 2M, 2.4 GHz, BMFA 142327 8. Phil Ramsey, Open, 2.4Ghz, BMFA tba 9. Bob Hope, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 10. Alan Twine, open, 2.4, BMFA 067979 11. Terry Stuckey, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 12. Colin Lucas, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 13. Ray Gadene, Open, 2.4, BMFA 052822 14. Eddy Small Open 2.4GHz BMFA 063558 15. Peter Mitchell, Open, 2.4 BMFA33859 16. Simon Thornton, Open, 2.4, BMFA 069287 17. Al Lipscombe, Open, 2.4 GHz, S067235 18. Ian Duff, Open, 2.4ghz, BMFA 018894 19. Peter Allen, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 20. Brian Austin, Open, 2.4, BMFA 057851 21. Simon Conran, 2M, 2.4, S 195226 22. Derek Potter, Open, 2.4 Ghz, BMFA tba 23. Rob Love, Open, 2.4 BMFA tba 24. Gary Matthews, Open, 2.4, BMFA 032611 25. Bob Ryan, Open, 2.4, BMFA 76538 26. Julian Benz, Open, 2.4, BMFA 208785 Tonbridge F5J Round Scores 17.6.2018.pdf Tonbridge F5J 17.6.18 Height Penalty.pdf Tonbridge F5J Landing Results 17.6.2018.pdf Tonbridge F5J 17.6.18 Flight Scores.pdf
  13. ENTRY CLOSED WITH 20 FLYERS Hot off the press Gentlemen, Our hosts NKN have a large gas BBQ and a 2 ring gas cooker with kettle for making a brew if any one wants to use themselves and bring there own they are welcome, or if enough interest they could take orders in the morning and pop along the local Asda and get what flyers want and then cook it for them! Please let me know of your interest in this? ALSO the adjacent Gun Club serves food including full English breakfast and has toilet facilities. Drive slowly to avoid POTHOLES on Joyce Green Lane The event is a ‘Bartletts League’ qualifier and will be run at North Kent Nomads (NKN) field (nearest post code DA1 5PN) as detailed on the attached location map. The usual 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each can score points in their own Bartletts league. Please note that models must comply with BARCS class restrictions if you wish to also score in the appropriate BARCS Leagues. 2 entries allowed per pilot, but each entry must be with different class models. AMRT (Height limiter) CAN be set to any height up to 300mtrs, but MUST be set with a maximum motor run time of 30sec. Scoring as per F5J, i.e. a penalty of 3 points per metre for launching over 200mtrs, BUT no bonus for launching below 200mtrs. And don’t forget, not only can you re start your motor in an emergency (which cancels that flight score) but you get one re launch in a slot if you find it necessary Entry £5.00 payable on the day. CD is Ian Nicholls (07760750298) and hosted by NKM Secretary Peter Bennett Please book in from 0900, pilots briefing will be at 0945 and start at 1000 to allow 6 rounds to be flown Please register your entry in this thread by 1800 on Friday 18th, all will be assumed to be on 2.4 unless advised Nick Jackson Eddy Small Tony Wood Ian Nicholls Michael Connell Keith Fisher Bob Hope David Yale Alan Twine Derek Collings Keith Benton John Postle Brian Martin Alan Harris Brian Austin John Hovell Peter Ley Garry Matthews Ray Gadenne Pete Mitchell
  14. ThermalBoy

    Tonbridge F5J Comp

    F5J Tonbridge Competition - Sunday 23 September 2018 Tonbridge club are hosting a BMFA League F5J competition at Leigh Park Farm, Nr Tonbridge, Kent on Sunday 23 September 2018. All are welcome with plenty of help available on the day for F5J newbie's.
  15. ThermalBoy

    Tonbridge F5J Comp

    F5J Tonbridge Competition - Sunday 17 June 2018 Tonbridge club are hosting a BMFA League F5J competition at Leigh Park Farm, Nr Tonbridge, Kent on Sunday 17 June 2018. All are welcome with plenty of help available on the day for F5J newbie's. Please enter via the post in the "Electric Soaring and F5J" section of the BARCS website.
  16. 1st round in this year’s Southern Area BMFA F5J League Venue is Little Bentley Polo Club, Rectory Road, Essex, CO7 8SN. Your model must have an approved height limiting/data logging device (AMRT) which must be able to show the max height your model goes to during its motor run time plus 10 seconds after your motor is shut off. The limiting function must be set to allow maximum 30seconds motor run time, and the height limiting function must either be disabled or set to 300m. Motor restart is permitted at any time during flight for safety reasons, but will result in a zero score for that round. Two classes of model can be entered, either Open or 2Metre but only one entry permitted. Prizes awarded on the day and points scored will go towards the National League. The competition will be run to BMFA Local Rules, 6 rounds will be flown if conditions permit and there will not be a flyoff. Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of BMFA membership (card is sufficient) required. Timing on the day may vary, and all/any help to set up the field will be appreciated. But the plan is as usual, book in from 9am. First flight around 10am. Eamon Keating - BMFA 192268 - Open Ray Gadenne - BMFA 052822 - Open Graham Wicks - BMFA 052827 - Open Peter Ley - BMFA 187230 - Open Garry Matthews - BMFA 032611 - Open Peter Mitchell - BMFA 33859 - Open Tony Merritt - BMFA 142327 - 2m Randy Taylor - BMFA 165603 - Open Brian Austin - BMFA 57851 - Open Colin Boorman - BMFA 027713 - Open John Hovell - BMFA 40572 - Open Kevin Beale - BMFA 40788 - Open Simon Thornton - BMFA 069287 - Open David Jowers - BMFA 043983 - Open (maybe 2m if windy) Paul Wainwright - BMFA 047845 - Open or 2m (TBA) Julian Benz - FAI GER 3872 - Open Steve Knowles - BMFA 70799 - Open Richard Clouting - BMFA 77318 - 2m Please post your entries on this thread by 6pm on Saturday 14th April along with your BMFA number and model class.
  17. In case others haven't seen Pete M's post below there will be a pre-season event at Little Bentley to prepare ourselves for the 2018 league onslaught :-) If enough pilots register we'll run slots and rounds otherwise we'll do the IRCMC all-up-last-down timed flight, landing target is near yourself, and no timer/helper. Register your interest and watch this space for a go, no-go on Saturday 24th March. If Sunday 25th March isn't good for flying will we roll forward to Sunday 1st April (go, no-go 31st March). If 1st April isn't good we'll roll forward to Easter Monday 2nd April (go, no-go on 1st April). If the 2nd is no good either we'll roll on to 8th April (go, no-go on 7th). The following Sunday (15th April) is the first F5J comp., a new thread will be started for that. Tony Tony Merritt - 2m Garry Matthews - Open Cliff Stone - Open Ray Gadenne - Open Paul Wainwright - 2m/Open Pete Mitchell - Open Randy Taylor - Open Richard Clouting - 2m David Jowers - 2m Simon Conran - 2m/Open John Hovell - Open Peter Ley - Open
  18. AnthonyB

    Soaring North West

    In the North West (Lancashire) there is no F5J or ALES or anything. I have been doing this sort of thing since last century and I would drive 300 miles for a comp. I would love to have something / anything near here - Finally, I have started a Facebook page ..... "Soaring North West" My hope is that like minded people could use it to actually get something moving.
  19. Recent date changes made it impossible for me to run the comp. previously scheduled for the 1st October, this is now the new date. It may be that this is the last round of the season, but if weather permits, I do intend to get one more round flown on the 29th. But to make sure you get as many league scores in this year as possible, this one could be your last and best chance. The usual 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each score points in their own league. 2 entries allowed, but each must be with different class models. Please note that models must comply with BARCS class restrictions to also score in the appropriate BARCS Leagues. Height limiter CAN be set to any height upto 300mtrs. Maximum motor run time 30sec.A penalty of 3 points per metre for launching over 200mtrs, but no bonus for launching below 200mtrs. And you get one re launch if you find it necessary Entry £5.00 per class, payable on the day. Please register your entry here, all will be assumed to on 2.4 unless advised. Eamon Keating Open Ray Gadenne Open Richard Clout 2M Garry Matthews Open Paul Wainwright Open " 2M Randy Taylor Open Steve Knowles Open Peter Ley Open Brian Austin Open John Hovell Open Tony Merritt 2M Colin Paddon Open Pete Mitchell Open Graham Wicks Open Simon Conran 2M " 100 Cliff Stone Open
  20. Breaking News Bring your suntan lotion! Don't get lost but if you do call 07760750298. Organised by Kent Interclub CD Richard Harris As previously stated, Bartletts Rules are unchanged apart from the one minor amendment relating to height limiter settings detailed below. As usual, 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each score points in their own league. 2 entries allowed, but must be with different class models. Please note that models must comply with BARCS class restrictions to also score in the appropriate BARCS Leagues. Height limiter CAN be set to any height up to 300m. Maximum motor run time 30sec. A penalty of 3 points per metre for launching over 200m, but no bonus for launching below 200m. Entry £5.00 per class, payable on the day. Please register your entry here, all assumed to be on 2.4 unless advised. Location Sutton Valence Nearest Post Code ME17 3AU The field at Sutton Valence will be signposted on the day on the A274 running south from Sutton Valence. We might know which field (Forsham Lane or Heniker Lane) we can use by Friday 22nd and published here but on the day look for the signs with a “Glider” on them Map Link https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?hl=en&msa=0&z=15&ie=UTF8&mid=1aUAe8hQF_d0FtDs2w8fWwT3342A&ll=51.20294501242778%2C0.5932615000000396 Please book in from 0900, pilots briefing will be at 0945 and start at 1000 to allow 6 rounds to be flown. Entrants Ian Nicholls Open Mike Connell Open Keith Fisher Open Richard Harris Open Eddy Small Open Steve Crowther Open Alan Twine Open Derek Collings Open Brian Martin Open Alan Harris Open Terry Letchford Open Pete Mitchell Open Ray Gardenne Open Garry Matthews Open John Postle Open Tony Wood Open Brian Austin Open Graham Wicks Open Rod Potts Open Peter Ley Open Bob Ryan Open Phil Ramsey Open Colin Paddon Open
  21. Tonbridge F5J Competition - Sunday 17 September 2017 - RESULTS Tonbridge club are hosting a BMFA League F5J competition at Leigh Park Farm, Nr Tonbridge, Kent on Sunday 17 September 2017. We will be running a relaxed and fun competition for both existing competition flyers and new pilots alike. All welcome with plenty of help available on the day for F5J newbie's. Directions to the field can be found here: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Leigh+Park+Farm/@51.2091254,0.19327,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m2!3m1!1s0x47df4fda3f5fd36d:0xfd76d04136677dd9?hl=en The competition will be run to F5J rules with UK variations as published by the BMFA. Copy of the full rules can be found here: https://bmfa.org/DesktopModules/Bring2mind/DMX/Download.aspx?Command=Core_Download&EntryId=2078&language=en-GB&PortalId=0&TabId=219 The main points for BMFA F5J comps are: - Either Open or 2m may be flown, not both. - Motor restart may be used (results in a zero flight score), and therefore you need only use your eSoaring switch BUT you must reset the (200m) height limit to 300m this can often be done easily by using a reader, otherwise use a computer. - As in eSoaring, you must provide a reader, so that your timekeeper can check your launch height immediately after landing. - Minimum of 4 rounds to be flown. - CD (Graham Wicks) will announce whether or not a Fly-Off will be flown before the start. Entry fee £10.00 (BMFA requirement) payable on the day. Proof of insurance (BMFA membership card is sufficient) required Closing date for entries is 6.00pm Friday 15th September In the event that there is any doubt as to whether the event will be run due to forecasted inclement weather, a final decision will be posted on the BARCS and Esoaring websites by no later than 4pm on Saturday 16th September. We look forward to welcoming you on the field. Book in from 9am. First flight’s at 10am Please enter this competition by posting here on this thread: 1) Your name 2) Class being entered - i.e. OPEN or 2 METRE 3) Preferred Frequency if on 35Mhz. 4) BMFA Number Entry list to date: 1. Graham Wicks, Open, 2.4, BMFA 052827 2. Colin Boorman, Open 2.4, BMFA tba 3. Kevin Beale, Open, 2.4, BMFA 040788 4. Colin Paddon, Open, 2.4, BMFA 073473 5. Ian Duff, open, 2.4ghz, BMFA 018894 6. Peter Ley, Open, 2.4, 187230 7. Eamon Keating, Open, 2.4GhZ, BMFA 192268 8. Eddy Small Open 2.4GHz BMFA 063558 9. Ian Nicholls, OPEN 2.4GHz BMFA 39293 10. Peter Mitchell, Open, 2.4 BMFA33859 11. Keith Fisher, Open, 2.4, BMFA 060851 12. Rod Potts, Open, 2.4, BMFA 002973 13. Gary Matthews, Open, 2.4, BMFA 032611 14. Alan Twine Open, 2.4, BMFA67979 15. Mike Connell, Open. 2.4, BMFA 155649 16. WITHDRAWN - Richard Harris, Open, 2,4GHz, BMFA S085832 17. Graham Foster, 2M?, 2.4Ghz, BMFA tba 18. Derek Potter, Open, 2.4 Ghz, BMFA tba 19. Chris Foss, Open, 2.4 GHz, BMFA tba 20. Phil Ramsey, Open, 2.4Ghz, BMFA tba 21. Terry Stuckey, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 22. Colin Lucas, Open, 2.4, BMFA tba 23. Steve Knowles, Open, 2.4Ghz, BMFA 070799 24. Al Lipscombe, Open, 2.4 GHz, S067235 25. Rob love, Open, 2.4,BMFA 130092 26. John Hovell, Open, 2.4, BMFA 40572 27. Ray Gadene, Open, 2.4, BMFA 0528822 28. Tony Merritt, 2M, 2.4, BMFA 142327 RESULTS Comp report to follow.
  22. Due to adverse weather forecasts this event has been cancelled. As posted a week or so back, due to changed circumstances, the next round arranged to be held in Kent has now been re located to the home venue at Bartletts Farm, Rettendon, Nr.Chelmsford,Essex. As previously stated, Bartletts Rules are unchanged apart from the one minor amendment relating to height limiter settings detailed below. As usual, 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each score points in their own league. 2 entries allowed, but must be with different class models. Please note that models must comply with BARCS class restrictions to also score in the appropriate BARCS Leagues. Height limiter CAN be set to any height upto 300mtrs. Maximum motor run time 30sec.A penalty of 3 points per metre for launching over 200mtrs, but no bonus for launching below 200mtrs. Entry £5.00 per class, payable on the day. Please register your entry here, all assumed to be on 2.4 unless advised. Brian Austin Open Peter Ley Open Mike Connell Open Nick Jackson Open Eddy Small Open Ray Gadenne Open Alan Twine Open Randy Taylor Open Garry Matthews Open Paul Wainwright Open John Hovel Open
  23. SilentPilot

    Stupid question?

    Hi, I'm seriously looking into F5J with a view to entering comps. Just when I thought I'd got all the rules nailed another thing crossed my mind... Please correct me if I'm wrong: F5J is a thermal duration comp run in a 10 minute window. Launch height is calculated and deducted from the total score. Low start heights that 'get away' are much better than higher starts that hang on in there. My dumb question is such: If you launch to say 50m but drop out quite early, can you re-launch and take another penalty (which if you then make the 10 mins might make a respectable score and so make it worthwhile) or are re-launches forbidden? Tony
  24. Apologises for not posting this before! You are invited to Kent Interclub Glider 4 Multilaunch competition to be held at the INVICTA Field (Kent) 20th August CD Richard Harris ENTRANCE Free for KI Members £5 on the day for non KI To enable a enjoyable day please could you notify Ian Nicholls by email iannicholls60@hotmail.com by Friday 18th July 7pm with details of model Glider Class Open or 100", Electric Open or 100" and Frequency so a matrix can be set up? The Rules are BARCS Multilaunch as we used last year where Electric launched gliders must have a Motor stop function set at 175m and 30 seconds. Entry free to Kent Interclub members £5 for others payable on the day For Electric launched gliders the Time Keeper must in addition to the normal flight time and landing points should also record for Electric launched gliders on the score sheet the F5J launch height for future Kent Interclub evaluation of rules. Recommended settings for the amrt will be sent on request. The exact field will be signposted on the day from the A274 running south from Sutton Valence. We want to have a full day flying so please check in by 09:30 latest and be ready for Pilots Briefing at 09:45 with the competition starting at 10:00 sharp. A minimum of 4 rounds and a maximum of 6 rounds will be flown with one discarded score. Alternative forms of notification for entries, Pick up the phone and call Ian by Friday 218th August 7pmy on 01304362370 or 07760750298 If you have any queries please let me know as soon as possible? Thanks and best regards Ian Entries so far Canterbury: Eddy Small Tony Wood both Electric Open Bromley: Derek Collings and Alan Twine Electric Open Bloobirds: Mike Connell and Ian Nicholls both Electric Open SADMAC: Alan Harris electric, Brian Martin electric open, John Postle winched glider NKN: David Yale Electric Open Gravesend: Bob Ryan Electric Open Invicta: Richard Harris, Keith Fisher, Rod Potts all Electric Open Tonbridge: Bob Hope Non KI Phil Ramsey Electric Open All on 2.4
  25. The next round of the league will be at Bartletts Farm, Rettendon on Sunday 13th August. Seems like ages since the last comp, so attached is a list showing league positions up to date. This will also be the first ‘official’ BARCS Electroslot event after our rules were accepted by BARCS following the trial comp at Radioglide. Bartletts Rules are unchanged apart from one minor amendment relating to height limiter settings detailed below. As usual, 3 classes of model can be flown, Open, 2Mtr and 100” (up to 2.6mtr allowed), and each score points in their own league. 2 entries allowed, but must be with different class models. But please note that models must comply with BARCS class restrictions to also score in the appropriate BARCS Leagues. Height limiter CAN be set to any height upto 300mtrs. Maximum motor run time 30sec. Penalty for launching over 200mtrs, but no bonus for launching below 200mtrs. Entry £5.00 per class, payable on the day. Please register your entry here All 2.4 unless advised. Rod Potts Open Ian Nicholls Open Jeff Ott 100 Peter Ley Open Mike Connell Open Ray Gadenne Open Alan Twine Open Derek Collings Open Brian Austin Open Nick Jackson Open Eddy Small Open Randy Taylor Open Garry Matthews Open Paul Wainwright Open " " 2M Roger Robbins Open " " 100 John Snell 100 Steve Knowles Open Collin Paddon Open Graham Wicks Open Sydney Lenssen 100 Tony Merritt 2M Peter Mitchell Open Colin Boorman Open Bartletts League.pdf
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