Bear Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Having recently thrown my rattle out the pram because of the wait to get a Stingray and Prismaray wings. I am left wondering what other models might fit the bill. Im looking for something scale or scalish which will be fully aerobatic in big coastal winds. I want it to be about 3m size and easy to launch without a helper. It has been suggested to me that a big Swift or Fox would fit the bill, but no-one has suggested a specific model. Oh and cost, up to a grand but half that would be nice. Any pointers gratefully received Roger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Carbon D-Box Valenta Volcano? Or even the full Carbon. http://www.valentamodel.cz/51a.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Or for a Fox the Reichard one that T9 bring in. Woodstock had one. In stock and ready for you.... http://www.t9hobbysport.com/item.asp?catid=102&subcatid=212&prodid=791 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 I have had a look at the Fox, but am worried its not going to withstand the kind of aerobatics I want it to do. (similar to the Stingray video). Would anyone care to comment on the strength of the Fox? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil.Taylor Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Windrider Fox - heavy build sent you a PM Phil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slope_dragon_x Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 http://www.blue-airlines.com/swift%20s1vollgfk.htm http://www.blue-airlines.com/solofox.htm http://www.blue-airlines.com/filme-videos.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I had a WingsandMore 'ray, and also an X-models Heavy Slope 'ray. Both sold, the latter sold before flying. How could I do without a 'ray in my life you ask with tears in your eyes? Because, I answer, in the interim I had finished my 2.8 m L-213A (Valenta). This remains my favorite scale aerobat (even the Baudis carbon Salto hasn't quite eclipsed it in my heart yet). It's hugely capable, easy to handle, fast, gorgeous in the air, just ticks all my boxes.. Strong too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slope_dragon_x Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Along the same lines as Chris..... http://www.valentamodel.cz/28a.htm Just over your budget, but it's probably the finest slope aerobat that I've been lucky to fly. It would take any level of punishment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slopeflyer Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 It has to be a big fox. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FO_Putt0nEc&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Along the same lines as Chris..... http://www.valentamodel.cz/28a.htm Just over your budget, but it's probably the finest slope aerobat that I've been lucky to fly. It would take any level of punishment. Very interested in the 1/5 scale L213A, not sure I want to go as big as the 1/3 (yet). For ordering do you deal directly with valenta please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_B Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 The reichard Fox wouldnt take the punishment you are talking about.....lovely plane but you would kill it in big winds at the coast ......slopedragons suggestions are well worth checking out ...he is one of the best big aero people ive seen fly ....and if Chris's L213a has lasted as long as it has with him you can pretty much be sure its as strong as an ox ..................and is a better option than the ray its all down to what you like the look of Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slope_dragon_x Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 Try Phil at Glidermania http://www.glidermania.co.uk/ You may need to be patient because he has to fit in our hobby with other committments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted April 16, 2012 Author Share Posted April 16, 2012 Thanks very much for the help gents, will make my mind up while on holiday. Really surprised how much choice there is, thought it would be a real struggle to find something similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Ed Posted April 16, 2012 Share Posted April 16, 2012 I was about to order a Volcano from Valenta direct but they wanted 90€ or so to ship it and for some reason that stuck in my throat. In retrospect they have to make a decent packing crate to send it, so… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffhanger Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Just recently bought a Valenta Cappuccino from Modellbau in Germany. Unfortunately the UK suppliers of Valenta models want to charge the same in £'s as the price is in euro's. The service from Jurgen at Modellbau was second to none- even phoning me for a chat. His price for shipping was, if I remember, a very reasonable 40 euros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I buy most of my Valenta stuff from Jurgen Schmierer (I think that may be who cliffhanger is talking about above): http://www.schmierer-modellbau.com/1-2web-xhtml/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffhanger Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yep that's the guy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Posted April 17, 2012 Author Share Posted April 17, 2012 I have got alot of options thanks to you gents. I am thinking it will be a toss up between the Foka 4 or the L213a. I wouldnt of thought that there would be alot of difference between the 2 performance wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAZ Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 Pilatus B4 1/3.3, 4.5m span. MAZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted April 17, 2012 Share Posted April 17, 2012 I have got alot of options thanks to you gents. I am thinking it will be a toss up between the Foka 4 or the L213a. I wouldnt of thought that there would be alot of difference between the 2 performance wise. There is a slight difference in foil, not sure how much difference that will make.. Two points to consider though: 1. The Inteco L-213A was designed as an aerobat from the get go. The Foka (I believe) was designed as a more conventional open class soarer... 2. IMO flaps are essential for a glider of this type: for landing, foil camber change and snap flap. The L-213 is available with or without flaps. Not sure about the Foka... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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